Recipe for the ultimate ARM Powered device

Posted by – January 19, 2011

Android + Chrome OS + Google TV = All-in-one ultimate gadget.

The Motorola Atrix 4G gives us a taste of what’s coming. You get one pocketable product, that is, up to 5″ for normal pocket (passport sized), and up to 7″ for jacket pocket (you’ll see, almost every jacket comes with such a pocket), for this summer I think up to 5″ is the more likely size but for next Christmas sales the 7″ size may win, that device runs full speed Android no slow downs, and when docked to Desktop/HDTV Dock it outputs either Chrome OS for productivity or Google TV for entertainment depending on which mode the user wants to use, and also have this solution power the laptop dock.

Ultimate Pricing

- The ARM Powered brains, basically modular Android Tablet should not cost more than $200 at retail this year. Might add $50 for built-in 3G/4G modem. White Space support this year would be good if built in the FON.com model. If someone could miniaturize a reliable swappable and optional 3G/4G/White Space modem module that could be slided into the back of the device, including easily accessible SIM card reader in there, that could be nice. This way the same product is sold worldwide and the unlocked cellular modem would be an optional accessory that could be purchased for $50 separately.

- Desktop/HDTV Dock should be no more than $50. It’s just a bunch of connectors. Full Google TV support could also include HDMI input and IR Blaster in that Dock, as well as the multimedia RF remote. Ports should include at least 3x USB host, 1x HDMI, 1x mini jack input, 1x mini-jack output, 1x optical audio output.

- Laptop Dock should be no more than $100, include super good quality 10.1″ Pixel Qi screen, capacitive touch, so this also turns this into a 10.1″ Tablet.

Fast enough ARM Processors to do it all-in-one.

The ARM Cortex-A9 powering this device should have fast enough memory bandwidth, fast enough I/O, built in a way that it is fully fast enough to run dozens of tabs at the same time in Chrome OS mode, the overlaying features of Google TV mode should have to support full dual-view with overlays when using HDMI pass-through and support all codecs at fully highest bitrates and highest profiles 1080p 60 frames per second.

This may mean that the current Tegra2 in Motorola Atrix 4G may not be fast enough, but that this ultimate product may need to use the upcoming Texas Instruments OMAP4430 (as in Blackberry Playbook), Qualcomm Dual-Core MSM8660 Snapdragon (as in Asus Memo), Samsung Orion (as potentially in Samsung Galaxy S2/Tab2) and let’s see/analyse performance and availability of the upcoming Freescale i.MX6, Marvell Tricore, Nvidia Tegra3. Someone knows how Amlogic’s ARM Cortex-A9, Nufront’s ARM Cortex-A9 and others may perform comparatively? I’m looking forward to post or find web browsing, video playback, battery runtime and pricing benchmarks testings to be done comparing the performance of all these next generation ARM Processor platforms.

Waiting for Google’s software

The main problem for a platform maker at this point, is that Google has not yet released Honeycomb source code, not yet released Chrome OS for ARM, not yet released Google TV for ARM, thus a gadget maker not having real-time access to Google’s software R&D offices, would have to anticipate this evolution and prepare an all-in-one tablet/smartphone solution that would be compatible with integration of these multi-booting software convergence solutions once Google releases them within the next few months. I don’t know for sure how such Atrix 4G like solution would have to work, if each of the Android, Chrome OS and Google TV have to boot all at the same time offering instant swapping between one or the other OS in the user interfaces, or if all 3 of these OS have to be merged somehow first for this to work in an optimal way. Please post in the comments if you know how Motorola does it on Atrix 4G and how this using Android+Chrome+GTV has to work.

My favorite size would be the tablet using the 7″ Pixel Qi screen, allowing for smaller battery thus 200grams super light weight and thin form factor, the laptop dock should somehow allow for the tablet to be docked on the side of the 10.1″, 11.6″ or larger screen, thus actually extending the screen surface, you can thus touch the tablet part and work on the laptop screen. Basically the Laptop Dock could be like shown by Motorola where the pocketable tablet is either behind the laptop screen, but should be with a swivel to be positionned upright next to the laptop screen. Thus this device combines Tablet, E-reader, Mobile Phone, Laptop and Set-top-box functionality all into one.

Non-free, non-open-source alternatives to Android+Chrome+GTV? Fine.

- Someone in the industry thinks they can do it better than Android? Fine. They can try to put RIM’s Playbook OS, HP’s WebOS, Apple’s iOS, Microsoft’s WP7 or Nokia’s Meego on there if they think that is better or they feel they need to differentiate.

- Someone in the industry thinks another browser than Chrome is better? Fine. Like Motorola does Atrix 4G for now with Mozilla Firefox, Opera might have another browser solution, there’s Webkit, IE. All that matters is we get a full speed full resolution ARM Powered web browsing experience with flash and support for all HTML5 web standards including offline web apps, the Native Code and WebGL stuff coming out.

- Someone in the industry think they can do better than Google TV on ARM? Fine. They can load another media player UI on there if they want. Just make sure the user can sit back on a sofa, use a full sized RF keyboard on the USB host, and get near-instant access to all the IPTV, all the VOD, all BitTorrent/RSS downloads, with full codecs support up to 1080p60fps full bitrates, with full NTFS/ETX3 usb hard drive support, full Samba/Upnp/Dlna support, full YouTube 1080p leanback playback and more. Easy plugins for Netflix/Hulu and more is obvious as well. All the while, still sitting in the sofa with that keyboard or fancy lean back mouse pointer, and have a full overlay web experience on top of the video as well, launching overlay apps for chatting, finding other videos, looking up informations, tweeting, video-conferencing and all other features that could be imagined to be done in the living room HDTV.

Who invented this ARM Powered ultimate convergence device?

By the way, this taste of ultimate convergence is not a Motorola invention, although they may be the first to show a sleek ARM Cortex-A9 integration, Archos has been crazy about docks for many years and I’m one of the original Archos Fans (see my other site http://forum.archosfans.com). Archos made the first color screen PMP JBMM20 with Camera/DVR Docks and video outputs 9 years ago, the first embedded Linux Tablet PMA400 (then running Qtopia Linux) 5 years ago, the first Android Tablet Archos 5 Internet Tablet with HDMI 720p Android Dock over a year ago. And Archos has always booted their multimedia OS in parallel with the embedded Linux and more recently Android stuff, both in parallel, thus providing the best of both OS in one same device. But now I believe ARM Cortex-A9 provides enough performance and Google’s software is maturing fast enough so I think Archos and the rest of the industry is able to work towards this dream of an all-in-one device.

  • Bob

    Atrix runs a customized Gnome linux which I think only complicates things. It’s not as if they don’t have early access to honeycomb (see moto xoom). I think honeycomb should be able to handle everything but you’d have to wait for the honeycomb version of google TV and we still haven’t seen what honeycomb means for smartphones. I think chrome OS only makes sense as a quick-boot OS for windows laptops.

  • Anonymous

    I would buy this product!! I would prefer the under 5 inch model to carry in the pocket and then carry the laptop dock in a bag. I live in Florida so we don’t ever wear jackets. :-) You have the device in the pocket to listen to music, quick surf the web and then pull out the laptop dock to do more work.
    Have you seen the Always Innovating SmartBook? Its a pocketable device that plugs into a 10inch tablet that plugs into a laptop dock. It even has HDMI to hook up to the TV.
    But I like your idea of having Android, Chrome OS and Google TV all in one. That could be really good! I think it might be best tho to have Chrome ported to Android rather than Chrome OS tho. Then you can play Angry Birds on the TV :-) I have wanted a device like this for a long time but I never noticed until you pointed it out that Google actually has an OS for each use case that we want.

  • http://uduogah.wordpress.com/ Phlegon

    Great article Charbax. Just to point out that manufacturers do not need Chrome OS source release since they are built on a debian/ubuntu ARM port whose sources are readily available.

    Also recall that OLPC’s latest iteration on ARM is already running Fedora for ARM. So the sources are out there and all they need to do is grab is customise it and put some good UI on it and we’ll all be singing to church.

  • http://ARMdevices.net/ Charbax

    Cool yes, but do you think the Chrome browser on ARM is fast enough yet fully utilizing all available hardware acceleration for optimal smooth high resolution multi-tab web browsing? I guess Google may be keeping some of the Chrome OS source codes internally while they tweak things with some of the initial OEM manufacturers before trying to release these Chrome OS laptops.

    Just as the question of how Motorola optimized Firefox to have it run on their Atrix 4G, if they just took what’s there in the open source or if a bunch of specific hardware optimizations have been a big part of the work.

  • http://ARMdevices.net/ Charbax

    Thanks for your infos. Mostly what I mean with including Chrome is to have that full web browsing 100% fully optimized for ARM, I don’t know if it could be somehow just extracted from Chrome OS and put on top of Android as an app, perhaps using the new Gingerbread Android NDK native development kit. For sure Google must be working on that, to make Android Laptops more meaningful as well, I tried to ask Google about it about 6 months ago: http://armdevices.net/2010/06/02/google-qa-chrome-browser-as-just-an-app-in-android-smartbooks/

  • http://www.thechromesource.com Daniel Cawrey

    I think that the wireless operators, as well as satellite/cable providers would have serious problems with a device like this…

  • Anonymous

    Meego could also do this, maybe even easier than Android as the base OS could stay the same across all the docks and the UX would just change. It could work better, but I don’t really like Meego, I used it as my main OS for a month or so, so I think Google OSes all the way would be a great idea.

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  • http://ARMdevices.net/ Charbax

    That is when Google steps in and becomes a wireless internet service provider. How would they do it?

    1. Google can buy wireless bandwidth from at least one carrier in every country. Then resell or even give that away to users of the Global Google SIM Card system. Basically, by logic of free market competition, there should always be one carrier in every country who would be interested in selling Terrabytes of Wireless bandwidth to Google in huge bulk order, which they can use however they want, for example to give us free wireless bandwidth for Google Voice SIP calls, those calls require very little bandwidth depending on voice codec used.

    2. In some countries, Google might find it hard to purchase bulk wireless bandwidth from any of the carriers in that country. When that happens, public pressure and political pressure should be used at full scale, this will force politicians to regulate the reselling of wireless data at regulated prices. Just as many countries have rules for the reselling of copper lines for ADSL to competitors, same thing would have to happen for 3G and 4G wireless bandwidth.

    3. Google can invest few billions in creating a global worldwide free wireless network using the White Spaces 700Mhz unlicenced bandwidth. US has already voted for it. EU is about to vote for it. Google would deploy it using the FON.com model, mass produce $20 routers that convert any ADSL/Cable/Fiber at Home connection into a 700Mhz White Spaces hotspot that reaches throughout neibourhoods, employing clever signal strength modulation to optimize bandwidth, using a global standard for automatic authentication on those connections. This would create a global free wireless broadband network. Best of all, it could be built to cover the whole world in just a few months! As 700Mhz White Spaces reaches upwards kilometers per hotspot, covering a whole city with free wireless bandwidth only takes a few hundred such routers, or lets say, a few thousand of these. If they can be mass manufactured at the same price as a WiFi router, for below $20 each, then the cost of covering a whole city with free wireless bandwidth is counted in just the few tens of thousands of dollars. Google can afford covering whole countries fast like this.

  • Warrenbzf

    I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but pants are regularly coming with cell phone pockets now. The previous three pants I have bought each have a cell phone pocket. It is on the lower thigh. At first I thought it was just a strange style thing, like carpenter belt loops.

    My going-into-town pant’s cell phone pocket can actually fit the 5″ Dell Streak, although 2cm of it will be exposed. My other two pants could probably do 3.7-4″ screens at the max, so hopefully pants makers will make it possible for 5″ devices to take off. I don’t think most people would want to carry that device in there regular pockets.

  • http://ARMdevices.net/ Charbax

    I’m pretty sure 95% of pants in the world can fit a passport in the normal pocket, thus can fit a 5″ Tablet in there.

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