Comments on: Recipe for the ultimate ARM Powered device https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/ New video posted every 8 hours, forever Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:27:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: Some of my expectations for Ice Cream Sandwich (to be shown starting October 19th) – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-10888 Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:27:39 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-10888 […] is the recipe for the ultimate ARM Powered device. Ice Cream Sandwich […]

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By: Some of my expectations for Ice Cream Sandwich (to be shown starting October 11th) – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-10818 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:20:23 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-10818 […] is the recipe for the ultimate ARM Powered device. Ice Cream Sandwich […]

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By: Google buys Hardware company for $12.5 Billion – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-10410 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:24:46 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-10410 […] the Android team to make a platform that combines Ice Cream Sandwich, Google TV and Chrome OS into the ultimate ARM Powered device. Provide that solution as an all-in-one standard for the Android ecosystem and not just make it one […]

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By: Why the Motorola Atrix 4G+Dock is better than a Smartphone+Netbook – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-8456 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:16:50 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-8456 […] video) and at Mobile World Congress, having written about how I think this concept is an example of the ultimate ARM Powered device, as the Motorola Atrix 4G is being released in the USA, here are some of my arguments for why this […]

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By: Texas Instruments OMAP4 runs Android and Ubuntu at the same time – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7996 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:08:12 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7996 […] same time, this is awesome. It shows how Texas Instruments OMAP4 can be used to power the upcoming all-in-one ultimate ARM Powered devices that combine Laptop and Media player functionality into the […]

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By: Look for the best Mobile World Congress coverage here on ARMdevices.net these next few days – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7950 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:23:05 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7950 […] Motorola releases Atrix 4G and Xoom by the show start. First Tegra2 phone that does it all and first Honeycomb tablet, so it will be […]

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By: Motorola Atrix 4G to cost $3220 on AT&T ? – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7919 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:50:36 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7919 […] the pricing. Just because they are courageous enough to push the industry forward in terms of all-in-one ARM Powered device. It is understandable that Motorola wants to take ample profit margins on the accessories and not […]

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By: What to expect from Mobile World Congress – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7843 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 02:01:07 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7843 […] Motorola releases Atrix 4G and Xoom by the show start. First Tegra2 phone that does it all and first Honeycomb tablet, so it will be […]

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By: What Google should do. Now. – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7727 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:29:38 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7727 […] make it all boot on one ultra optimized ARM Powered software OS image. Read my previous post “Recipe for the ultimate ARM Powered device” for more on how this all-in-one software should […]

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By: Charbax https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7691 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:59:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7691 In reply to Warrenbzf.

I’m pretty sure 95% of pants in the world can fit a passport in the normal pocket, thus can fit a 5″ Tablet in there.

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By: Warrenbzf https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7689 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:45:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7689 I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but pants are regularly coming with cell phone pockets now. The previous three pants I have bought each have a cell phone pocket. It is on the lower thigh. At first I thought it was just a strange style thing, like carpenter belt loops.

My going-into-town pant’s cell phone pocket can actually fit the 5″ Dell Streak, although 2cm of it will be exposed. My other two pants could probably do 3.7-4″ screens at the max, so hopefully pants makers will make it possible for 5″ devices to take off. I don’t think most people would want to carry that device in there regular pockets.

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By: Charbax https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7687 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:39:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7687 In reply to Daniel Cawrey.

That is when Google steps in and becomes a wireless internet service provider. How would they do it?

1. Google can buy wireless bandwidth from at least one carrier in every country. Then resell or even give that away to users of the Global Google SIM Card system. Basically, by logic of free market competition, there should always be one carrier in every country who would be interested in selling Terrabytes of Wireless bandwidth to Google in huge bulk order, which they can use however they want, for example to give us free wireless bandwidth for Google Voice SIP calls, those calls require very little bandwidth depending on voice codec used.

2. In some countries, Google might find it hard to purchase bulk wireless bandwidth from any of the carriers in that country. When that happens, public pressure and political pressure should be used at full scale, this will force politicians to regulate the reselling of wireless data at regulated prices. Just as many countries have rules for the reselling of copper lines for ADSL to competitors, same thing would have to happen for 3G and 4G wireless bandwidth.

3. Google can invest few billions in creating a global worldwide free wireless network using the White Spaces 700Mhz unlicenced bandwidth. US has already voted for it. EU is about to vote for it. Google would deploy it using the FON.com model, mass produce $20 routers that convert any ADSL/Cable/Fiber at Home connection into a 700Mhz White Spaces hotspot that reaches throughout neibourhoods, employing clever signal strength modulation to optimize bandwidth, using a global standard for automatic authentication on those connections. This would create a global free wireless broadband network. Best of all, it could be built to cover the whole world in just a few months! As 700Mhz White Spaces reaches upwards kilometers per hotspot, covering a whole city with free wireless bandwidth only takes a few hundred such routers, or lets say, a few thousand of these. If they can be mass manufactured at the same price as a WiFi router, for below $20 each, then the cost of covering a whole city with free wireless bandwidth is counted in just the few tens of thousands of dollars. Google can afford covering whole countries fast like this.

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By: The Future of ARM and Chrome OS | thechromesource - Google Chrome and Chrome OS News and Forum https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7682 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:04:38 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7682 […] there has been some speculation about all-in-on ARM devices recently that could combine Android, Google TV and Chrome OS into one […]

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By: Anonymous https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7674 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:07:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7674 Meego could also do this, maybe even easier than Android as the base OS could stay the same across all the docks and the UX would just change. It could work better, but I don’t really like Meego, I used it as my main OS for a month or so, so I think Google OSes all the way would be a great idea.

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By: Daniel Cawrey https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7670 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:15:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7670 I think that the wireless operators, as well as satellite/cable providers would have serious problems with a device like this…

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By: Charbax https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7661 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:00:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7661 In reply to Bob.

Thanks for your infos. Mostly what I mean with including Chrome is to have that full web browsing 100% fully optimized for ARM, I don’t know if it could be somehow just extracted from Chrome OS and put on top of Android as an app, perhaps using the new Gingerbread Android NDK native development kit. For sure Google must be working on that, to make Android Laptops more meaningful as well, I tried to ask Google about it about 6 months ago: http://138.2.152.197/2010/06/02/google-qa-chrome-browser-as-just-an-app-in-android-smartbooks/

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By: Charbax https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7660 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:55:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7660 In reply to Phlegon.

Cool yes, but do you think the Chrome browser on ARM is fast enough yet fully utilizing all available hardware acceleration for optimal smooth high resolution multi-tab web browsing? I guess Google may be keeping some of the Chrome OS source codes internally while they tweak things with some of the initial OEM manufacturers before trying to release these Chrome OS laptops.

Just as the question of how Motorola optimized Firefox to have it run on their Atrix 4G, if they just took what’s there in the open source or if a bunch of specific hardware optimizations have been a big part of the work.

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By: Phlegon https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7659 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:32:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7659 Great article Charbax. Just to point out that manufacturers do not need Chrome OS source release since they are built on a debian/ubuntu ARM port whose sources are readily available.

Also recall that OLPC’s latest iteration on ARM is already running Fedora for ARM. So the sources are out there and all they need to do is grab is customise it and put some good UI on it and we’ll all be singing to church.

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By: Anonymous https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7628 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:25:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7628 I would buy this product!! I would prefer the under 5 inch model to carry in the pocket and then carry the laptop dock in a bag. I live in Florida so we don’t ever wear jackets. 🙂 You have the device in the pocket to listen to music, quick surf the web and then pull out the laptop dock to do more work.
Have you seen the Always Innovating SmartBook? Its a pocketable device that plugs into a 10inch tablet that plugs into a laptop dock. It even has HDMI to hook up to the TV.
But I like your idea of having Android, Chrome OS and Google TV all in one. That could be really good! I think it might be best tho to have Chrome ported to Android rather than Chrome OS tho. Then you can play Angry Birds on the TV 🙂 I have wanted a device like this for a long time but I never noticed until you pointed it out that Google actually has an OS for each use case that we want.

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By: Bob https://armdevices.net/2011/01/19/recipe-for-the-ultimate-arm-powered-device/comment-page-1/#comment-7627 Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:21:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=4025#comment-7627 Atrix runs a customized Gnome linux which I think only complicates things. It’s not as if they don’t have early access to honeycomb (see moto xoom). I think honeycomb should be able to handle everything but you’d have to wait for the honeycomb version of google TV and we still haven’t seen what honeycomb means for smartphones. I think chrome OS only makes sense as a quick-boot OS for windows laptops.

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