Comments on: HiSilicon K3V2 Quad-core 40nm ARM Cortex-A9 https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/ New video posted every 8 hours, forever Sun, 11 Jan 2015 22:51:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: O mundo na Fira de Barcelona | Backup do Pinguins Móveis https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-16765 Sun, 11 Jan 2015 22:51:01 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-16765 […] a série Dragon na China (e talvez fora de lá), hands-on do Huawei Ascend D quad, uma conversa sobre o HiSilicon K3V2 (o core do Huawei K3V2), o parque de diversões e números enormes do […]

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By: Highlights of 2012 on ARMdevices.net – ARMdevices.net https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-15962 Sun, 05 Jan 2014 04:07:06 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-15962 […] D Quad, “World’s Fastest Smartphone” Huawei MWC 2012 Press Conference (31-minute HD video!) HiSilicon K3V2 Quad-core 40nm ARM Cortex-A9 LG Optimus Vu vs Samsung Galaxy Note vs Samsung Galaxy Nexus Texas Instruments OMAP5430 Recon […]

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By: Jia Yi LI https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-13764 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:30:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-13764 In reply to Toto.

In fact HiSilicon is a subsidiary of Huawei..

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By: 40nm ARM Cortex-9 搭載、Huawei ハイスペックスマートフォン等に採用のクアッドコアプロセッサ「Hisilicon K3V2」情報 | Google Pad https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12381 Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:17:34 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12381 […] HiSilicon K3V2 Quad-core 40nm ARM Cortex-A9 – ARMdevices.net http://138.2.152.197/ […]

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By: titi https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12334 Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:42:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12334 In reply to Marc Guillot.

yes, of course. but two masters only instead of 3 masters. no coherency to support, no buffering to add to cope with snoop delays (CCI has no directory). And add one top of that two big L2 compared to 1. Which system is smaller , simpler, lower power ? 

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By: Marc Guillot https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12327 Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:32:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12327 In reply to titi.

 Yeah !, because Tegra fifth core doesn’t need interconnect, ¿ right ?.

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By: Hugo Becker https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12325 Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:04:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12325 In reply to Hugo Becker.

 That should have been “precludes the former” or “results in the latter case”.

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By: Hugo Becker https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12324 Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:02:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12324 I’m very curious about the “coherence” claim.  It would be quite interesting if it brings cache coherency out to the interconnect e.g. a PCIe connection, or if it is only cache coherent between cores by virtue of sharing the L2 cache.  My understanding is that using a licensed “netlist” core precludes the latter.  Coherence could be added by an architectural licensee that designed their own core, but that’s added expense and power draw that hasn’t (yet) been introduced.

Does anyone know what the actual capabilities are?

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By: Anonymous https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12318 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:04:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12318 In reply to Pug_ster.

 I already said this isn’t a 64bit chip, it only has a 64bit memory bus!

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By: Pug_ster https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12317 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:52:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12317 In reply to Anonymous.

There’s no such thing as 64 bit arm cpu’s.  It only exist on paper.  Nvidia, TI and Qualcomm all use 32 bit memory bandwidth in their SOC’s.  Though these SOC’s were able to compensate by using dual channel memory soc’s.  We will see if this phone is faster than the others as they claim.

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By: titi https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12316 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:26:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12316 In reply to NakTT.

you are right. big.Little is probably the most expensive way of doing things. You need two cluster + coherent interconnet (w/o directory) . This interconnect alone will probably consume more power that a Cortex A9 in LP process

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By: NakTT https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12315 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:21:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12315 In reply to Marc Guillot.

What Karel Gardas said is right. I guess you are the one who get it wrongly.

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By: Toto https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12313 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:16:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12313 Nice to read an article that say that’s HiSilcon Soc and not Huawei one (as copypasted most of technoblogs). These two companies works together since 2004 on ARM SoC.

http://www.arm.com/about/newsroom/hisilicon-licenses-arm-technology-for-use-in-networking-infrastructure-and-mobile-computing-applications.php

Thanks again Charbax.

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By: MWC 2012 : Huawei dévoile sa propre architecture quadruple-cœur, la HiSilicon K3V2 : Freamware https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12310 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:41:47 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12310 […] Merci à Charbax (ARM Devices) pour la photo. […]

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By: Marc Guillot https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12309 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:27:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12309 In reply to Karel Gardas.

No, the best innovation of whole ARM industry is big.LITTLE Cortex-A15 / Cortex-A7 architecture.

“Companion” core is like disable 3 cores and underclock the 4th.

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By: Marc Guillot https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12308 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:27:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12308 In reply to Karel Gardas.

No, the best innovation of whole ARM industry is big.LITTLE Cortex-A15 / Cortex-A7 architecture.

“Companion” core is like disable 3 cores and underclock the 4th.

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By: Huawei dévoile sa propre architecture quadruple-cœur, la K3V2 | FrAndroid Communauté Android https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12307 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:09:17 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12307 […] Merci à Charbax (ARM Devices) pour la photo. […]

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By: Anonymous https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12306 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:26:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12306 In reply to Karel Gardas.

 Intel’s latest 32nm Medfield SoC FAB is, besides some performance tweaks, still based on the same ATOM architecture they’ve been using for years.  So should come at no surprise that ARM’s much more modern next gen offerings will outshine it.  However, they’re completely re-working the ATOM architecture next year with the 22nm Silvermont and finally making the ATOM up to date. 

While Intel is apparently ahead in dealing with the power leakage issue as they continue to shrink the FAB that could start compensating them for their normal power efficiency disadvantage versus ARM.

So it’s hard to say right now how this will play out.  We only know the next gen ARM offerings will likely become the best low cost solutions, barring legacy support, by the end of this year but next year is next year.

Btw, I’ve seen some other sites incorrectly state this K3V2 quad core as being 64bit.  What it actually has is a 64bit memory bus and that’s one of the key reasons it can probably out perform the Tegra 3.

I agree, the HiSilicon claim that the “companion core” is not needed is dubious and it remains to be seen how power efficient their solution is for a proper comparison. 

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By: Dettagli sulla CPU K3V2 dei nuovi Huawei - Netbook News https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12305 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:07:38 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12305 […] (ci sono ancora molte perdite nel processo di fabbricazione, sembra). Sotto il video registrato da armdevices.net con molti altri dettagli e curiosità sul chip. Presto dovremmo avere modo di vederlo in funzione […]

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By: Dettagli sulla CPU K3V3 dei nuovi Huawei - Netbook News https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12304 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:06:15 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12304 […] (ci sono ancora molte perdite nel processo di fabbricazione, sembra). Sotto il video registrato da armdevices.net con molti altri dettagli e curiosità sul chip. Presto dovremmo avere modo di vederlo in funzione […]

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By: Karel Gardas https://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/comment-page-1/#comment-12303 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:32:00 +0000 http://138.2.152.197/?p=55980#comment-12303 HiSilicon does not need that “companion core” as they claim to have designed the Quad-core in “the correct way” — actually I don’t believe in this claim. The thing is simple, this “companion” core is one of the best inovation of whole ARM industry. Don’t forget not only NVidia is using it, but ARM took it even little bit further with its BIG.little scheme using A15 cores together with A7 core. In fact this is the  killer feature where Intel cannot compete at all — well, if we consider that with intel’s latest fabs they can barely compete with their power hungry atoms to ARMs built on older processes…

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