Google CEO never said YouTube, Android and Chrome are not profitable!!!!! You must not keep claiming that. Google CEO never said so!!!!!

The fact is since Larry Page is CEO he has refocused Google into 6 independent arms with sub-CEOs managing each area independently, and he is focusing more investments in each of those big areas, YouTube, Android and Chrome being 3 of those. Those are ALL PROFITABLE NOW, Google CEO Larry Page just wants to see them be even more profitable.

He is right. YouTube is going to be Google’s number 1 source of revenues and profits as soon as the Google TV revolution has sweeped the world. Within 6 months, more than 50% of new HDTVs will all come with Google TV integrated. The top-3 HDTV makers have already announced that all their upcoming HDTVs will come with built-in Google TV for free, that includes Samsung, LG and Sony. Other HDTV makers like Panasonic, Toshiba, Philips are all also expected to announce that their full lines will support Google TV by default built-in for free. The fact is hardware to support Google TV costs as little as $25 and it makes no sense for all HDTV makers not to include it for free, best as a module that can easily be swaped in case of a new faster Google TV hardware comes out in the future to not have to use a set-top-box.

Oh man, go read up and watch the demo videos of how Google TV works, ANY APP, ANY APK can use the Google TV search function, ANY, NO RESTRICTION,NO SPYWARE, NO SOPA, NO SPYING, you install an apk and if that apk uses search, everytime you search on Google TV (meaning start typing at any point), it will show results for all the apps that support it, that includes apps like Google Search, YouTube, Netflix, Hulu (if the lame and corrupt TV networks allow Hulu on Google TV), the app that manages Live Program Guide and IR blaster, any other app that includes search functionality, if you install ESPN, CNN or Twitter apps it’ll show results for those, and with options for each app to customize each of them, ANY APP, ALL APP, THEY ALL HOOK INTO SEARCH ON GOOGLE TV. Bye.

Saying GTV works like a web browser is just silly.  The whole point I’m making is that GTV likely doesn’t search through the contents of a bit torrent or engadget GTV app, because they likely want to avoid legal issues and because that would take extra APIs and integration.  You keep asserting that “illegal BitTorrent search results” will still show up but are vague about where that data comes from.  If you mean that GTV searches the web, sure, web search works like normal, but that’s just going to start up a web browser, like any desktop computer, and is not going to be a seamless experience.  If you mean that they’re searching the content database of a bit torrent app you downloaded, you are most likely wrong, that’s the whole point I’ve been making.  I’m not sure you understand the distinction, since you talk in very vague terms and don’t seem to understand these technical issues.
In fact, an early version of GTV even searched “across different video sources by including episodes available for free streaming on network TV websites and playing them back, but that was quickly snuffed out,” presumably because of legal complaints.  Those are the same legal reasons why they probably can’t integrate bit torrent search seamlessly, just like desktop operating systems can’t.

You end by implying that I’m saying that you can’t install any app you want on GTV, which anyone who can read would know I never said.  I was only talking about search integration from the beginning.  In any case, I now see you’re such a hopeless fanboy that little things like facts, links, and reasoning are lost on you, so I’ll stop posting to this dumb thread.

Google TV works like a web browser, that’s what makes it revolutionary. When you search for a movie or TV show it can show illegal BitTorrent search results together with legal pay-per-view and live TV, exactly because each of these are like Chome search shortcuts, quite simply any app that can get downloaded through the Google TV marketplace OR directly as an .apk from any website (if for example Google does not allow a certain app officially), and search results do show. Saying Google TV may not do this would be like saying that people who buy a Windows computer may not install whatever program they want and may not browse to any website they want. That is simply NOT possible and NOT part of the way Google TV is made. It’s an open free platform and it is built to revolutionize TV.

Wow, you really are a diehard google fanboy if you keep insisting Youtube is profitable despite all evidence to the contrary, including Larry Page’s own words from last summer.  Your notion that Youtube will ever dominate once they put a bunch of ads and paid plans is exactly why it was a dumb acquisition in the first place.  It is easy for any competitor to come along and do the same, in fact, Amazon and Apple and Hulu have been doing it profitably for years now.

As for bit torrent search, a browser like Chrome is completely different than an app on Google TV.  It is easy to index websites on Google’s web search and not claim responsibility for the contents, as long as you comply with the DMCA.  But Google TV’s search likely doesn’t include content from third-party apps and if it does, that may open the door to get sued for doing so, so not sure you want to keep saying they’re doing that.

The BitTorrent search in integrated search in Google TV just as any other app. Same thing for Chrome, you can shortcut to search on any website. There is no way Google or anyone else can prevent you from searching through any app from any site.

All those announcements would have been illegal if YouTube actually wasn’t profitable.

Sure enough it’s a big deal, YouTube is the single biggest website in the world in terms of bandwidth consumed. 3 Billion free video streamed are served each day. Quite simply, Google now has a big enough share of those videos that are right now being more and more monetized and that means they are profitable.

Here are some estimates pre-consideration of the huge upcoming impact on YouTube monetization from being able to display more video advertising using Google TV:

http://www.reelseo.com/youtube-profitability-watch-update/
http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/21/citi-google-local-youtube-1-billion/
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/03/technology/03youtube.html

All those announcements would have been illegal if YouTube actually wasn’t profitable.

Sure enough it’s a big deal, YouTube is the single biggest website in the world in terms of bandwidth consumed. 3 Billion free video streamed are served each day. Quite simply, Google now has a big enough share of those videos that are right now being more and more monetized and that means they are profitable.

Here are some estimates pre-consideration of the huge upcoming impact on YouTube monetization from being able to display more video advertising using Google TV:

http://www.reelseo.com/youtube-profitability-watch-update/
http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/21/citi-google-local-youtube-1-billion/
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/03/technology/03youtube.html

Being able to search for shows you want through keyword search is not really a solution.  The software needs to recommend shows to you, by using your past likes, as you will not have heard of most of the thousands of shows available online, so telling people to just search for it is silly.  How will you know what to type into the search when you haven’t heard of most of the shows?

I didn’t say they’d block bit torrent, I said they’d do nothing to officially integrate it and with good reason.  The moment you tie into torrent search engines or automatically get torrent feeds and make them searchable, you open yourself up to big lawsuits.  They may provide software libraries to make such torrent apps easier to create, but my point was that they’d always have to push those apps to third parties who may not care about legal liability.

The many channels problem is exactly solved also on Google TV through it’s HDMI intpout and IR blaster features, you type the show you want and it tunes to the right channel for you, now you never have to memorize the channel numbers and look through long program guides, nope, it generates the playlist for live and on-demand content for you automatically.

Google can’t block BitTorrent and RSS, it’s an app. If content companies don’t provide legal good priced access to stuff like Hulu, and full movies access on cheap subscriptions for Google TV, then you can be sure the Google TV users are going to be just fine getting any content they want using BitTorrent and RSS automatically, simply connect any USB hard drive and type in the movies you want, if you have a 20mbitps ADSL your movie is downloaded within 8 minutes and streamable progressively within 3 minutes for free.

It is already highly confusing to navigate a TV system with hundreds of cable channels, imagine how much worse it will be with internet video.  You need some sort of automated system that will surface recommended content for you based on your past likes: the recommendation system we’ve talked generally about before.  I have not seen any company doing this right, as somebody should have done this for written content on the web long ago, so I suspect we will have to wait much longer to see it.

As for monetization, Youtube is a joke that loses money to this day.  Adding millions more users- not going to happen, but let’s stick with your assumption- changes nothing about that, as every additional view costs more and with its current weak, ad-driven monetization, the financials might actually get worse.  I’m fairly certain that Google TV is going to be a giant bust and they will have to give up on it one day soon, particularly when they have to pull back on Android altogether as it brings in no revenue while costing billions.

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