Comments on: 3M Invests in Pixel Qi http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/ Blog on ARM Powered® devices Tue, 22 May 2012 07:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Highlights of 2011 on ARMdevices.net – ARMdevices.net http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-11592 Highlights of 2011 on ARMdevices.net – ARMdevices.net Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:08:03 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-11592 [...] Super AMOLED Plus Huawei Mediapad 7″ 1280×800 Honeycomb Qualcomm MSM8260 tablet launched 3M invests in Pixel Qi Arnova 10 G2 sold for $99 with newspaper subscription My review of the sub-$100 N5Zero 5″ [...] [...] Super AMOLED Plus Huawei Mediapad 7″ 1280×800 Honeycomb Qualcomm MSM8260 tablet launched 3M invests in Pixel Qi Arnova 10 G2 sold for $99 with newspaper subscription My review of the sub-$100 N5Zero 5″ [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10666 Anonymous Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:16:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10666 Things like production costs for AMOLED is dropping, Super-AMOLED price premium is now down to around 20% when compared to a Super LCD screen with the same size and resolution and making them more economical.  While people want not only readability but better screen quality and brighter colors.  So who knows where the technology will be in 2-3 years and how consumer demand may shape what ultimately prevails on most devices. Things like production costs for AMOLED is dropping, Super-AMOLED price premium is now down to around 20% when compared to a Super LCD screen with the same size and resolution and making them more economical.  While people want not only readability but better screen quality and brighter colors.  So who knows where the technology will be in 2-3 years and how consumer demand may shape what ultimately prevails on most devices.

]]> By: Charbax http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10663 Charbax Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:32:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10663 Well I think it's the opposite. In 2-3 years the AMOLED experiment at Samsung and smaller at few others will close down and all screens will remain LCD. The only reason they can make those is because they make so large profit margins on smartphones today so they don't care to spend extra $30 or $40 per screen, but those profits are logically going away. Well I think it’s the opposite. In 2-3 years the AMOLED experiment at Samsung and smaller at few others will close down and all screens will remain LCD. The only reason they can make those is because they make so large profit margins on smartphones today so they don’t care to spend extra $30 or $40 per screen, but those profits are logically going away.

]]> By: Maventwo http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10662 Maventwo Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:29:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10662 Samsung and LG are not the only ones in investing billions in Amoled production facilities even Taiwanese companies AUO och Chimei Innolux and Chinese Irico in the next two years. http://cens.com/cens/html/en/news/news_inner_37613.html This link above have a lot of information about Taiwanese and Chinese companies and the Displaysearch predictions about Amoled vs LCD. LCD makers have tighter and tighter marginals in their incomes for their production of LCD displays. Smaller displays will change from LCD to Amoled forthcoming 2-3 years and LCD making will be forced to change for larger displays as for TV. Samsung and LG are not the only ones in investing billions in Amoled production facilities even Taiwanese companies AUO och Chimei Innolux and Chinese Irico in the next two years.
http://cens.com/cens/html/en/news/news_inner_37613.html
This link above have a lot of information about Taiwanese and Chinese companies and the Displaysearch predictions about Amoled vs LCD.

LCD makers have tighter and tighter marginals in their incomes for their production of LCD displays.

Smaller displays will change from LCD to Amoled forthcoming 2-3 years and LCD making will be forced
to change for larger displays as for TV.

]]> By: Charbax http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10655 Charbax Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:08:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10655 LCD can be made cheaper, more durable using plastics instead of glass also, they are working on that. Samsung can invest billions in all kinds of things all the time because they can afford it, last year Samsung made $200 Billion in revenues, they are supposed to invest in all kinds of things. That does not mean Samsung plans to replace their LCD with AMOLED, Samsung is one of the world leaders in LCD production and technology. Big companies like Samsung are compelled to invest all kinds of big sums of money in all kinds of alternatives not just to have them as backups but also because the world is so big, each of these technologies can always be used somehow for something. AMOLEDs for example right now are helping Samsung produce upwards 50 million high-margin high-end differentiated smartphones for the market, and later those screens may have uses still. That doesn't mean Samsung doesn't know and believe that LCD will continue to be by far the biggest screen technology for many years, also for smartphones as soon as those are middle-margin middle-range today and the low-margin high-end of tomorrow. LCD can be made cheaper, more durable using plastics instead of glass also, they are working on that.

Samsung can invest billions in all kinds of things all the time because they can afford it, last year Samsung made $200 Billion in revenues, they are supposed to invest in all kinds of things. That does not mean Samsung plans to replace their LCD with AMOLED, Samsung is one of the world leaders in LCD production and technology. Big companies like Samsung are compelled to invest all kinds of big sums of money in all kinds of alternatives not just to have them as backups but also because the world is so big, each of these technologies can always be used somehow for something. AMOLEDs for example right now are helping Samsung produce upwards 50 million high-margin high-end differentiated smartphones for the market, and later those screens may have uses still. That doesn’t mean Samsung doesn’t know and believe that LCD will continue to be by far the biggest screen technology for many years, also for smartphones as soon as those are middle-margin middle-range today and the low-margin high-end of tomorrow.

]]> By: Charbax http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10654 Charbax Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:00:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10654 Yeah but that's not a Pixel Qi type LCD screen, which is basically as readable as E Ink outdoors, something AMOLED can by design never compete with. Reading is an important feature. Yeah but that’s not a Pixel Qi type LCD screen, which is basically as readable as E Ink outdoors, something AMOLED can by design never compete with. Reading is an important feature.

]]> By: Maventwo http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10653 Maventwo Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:40:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10653 Qualcomm Mirasoldisplay as an IMOD display tech will be made especially for the e-reader market because they know that it will be difficult to compete with Liquavista and Amoleds, forthcoming years. Amoleds will be much cheaper to massproduce when Amoleds are made of some makers. Amoleds are made in fewer producing steps than LCD and because of that they will be cheaper some years ahead than LCDs. Black in Amoleds have no current to the subpixels that makes Amoleds more power efficient than any LCD tech.  Why flexible displays? Smartphones with flexible display can have a much larger display inside a phones that you can open and use with the larger display or you can use a flexible display thinner than 1mm in all types of gadgets. Smartphones will be thinner and thiner because of the possibility to make Amoleds thinner than 1mm. A Korean researcher have developed a graphene speaker that is transparent. Together with Amoleds we will se some years ahead Amoleds together with transparent speakers so the Smartphones can be even thinner. Samsung acqired Liquavista in January and if you search for how many billions Samsung now invest in Amoled production facilities it is easy to understand that Samsung will invest billion even in Liquavista display making. http://www.oled-info.com/samsungs-and-lgs-oled-investments-could-reach-17-billion-2015 Pixel Qi is cheaper to make than Amoleds only because it is an LCD tech, it can then be implemented in an existing producing facilty. Qualcomm Mirasoldisplay as an IMOD display tech will be made especially for the e-reader market because they know that it will be difficult to compete with Liquavista and Amoleds, forthcoming years.

Amoleds will be much cheaper to massproduce when Amoleds are made of some makers.
Amoleds are made in fewer producing steps than LCD and because of that they will be cheaper some years ahead than LCDs.

Black in Amoleds have no current to the subpixels that makes Amoleds more power efficient than any LCD tech. 

Why flexible displays?
Smartphones with flexible display can have a much larger display inside a phones that you can open and use with the larger display
or you can use a flexible display thinner than 1mm in all types of gadgets.

Smartphones will be thinner and thiner because of the possibility to make Amoleds thinner than 1mm.

A Korean researcher have developed a graphene speaker that is transparent.
Together with Amoleds we will se some years ahead Amoleds together with transparent speakers so the Smartphones can be even thinner.

Samsung acqired Liquavista in January and if you search for how many billions Samsung now invest in Amoled production facilities
it is easy to understand that Samsung will invest billion even in Liquavista display making.
http://www.oled-info.com/samsungs-and-lgs-oled-investments-could-reach-17-billion-2015

Pixel Qi is cheaper to make than Amoleds only because it is an LCD tech, it can then be implemented in an existing producing facilty.

]]> By: Anonymous http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10651 Anonymous Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:53:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10651 * Qualcom is still building new factories so they could be able to produce Mirasol displays. Pixel Qi is already in mass production * Amoled displays are a lot more expensive than Pixel Qi displays * Unlike Amoled Pixel Qi screns are not only readable in direct sunlight but also power efficient. * Why exactly do we need flexible displays? * You listed a lot of screen manufacturers. Do any of them have products already available to consumers? I guess by the time some of them will release their product, Pixel Qi will be a lot more advanced than it's now. * E-ink can not show videos and their displays still have horrible lag when browsing the web or doing similar stuff and we are still waiting for e-readers with color e-ink technology to hit the market.  * Qualcom is still building new factories so they could be able to produce Mirasol displays. Pixel Qi is already in mass production
* Amoled displays are a lot more expensive than Pixel Qi displays
* Unlike Amoled Pixel Qi screns are not only readable in direct sunlight but also power efficient.
* Why exactly do we need flexible displays?
* You listed a lot of screen manufacturers. Do any of them have products already available to consumers? I guess by the time some of them will release their product, Pixel Qi will be a lot more advanced than it’s now. * E-ink can not show videos and their displays still have horrible lag when browsing the web or doing similar stuff and we are still waiting for e-readers with color e-ink technology to hit the market. 

]]> By: Maventwo http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10650 Maventwo Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:48:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10650 Amoleds are much better in direct sunlight, this video from Youtube shows that in a comparison between a Smartphone with a LCD vs a phone with an Amoled display. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHNQX6kHQ8 Oleds and Amoleds have fewer processing steps than color LCD displays. http://www.ignisinnovation.com/technology/about-amoled-displays Amoleds are much better in direct sunlight, this video from Youtube shows that in a comparison between a Smartphone with a LCD vs a phone with an Amoled display.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHNQX6kHQ8
Oleds and Amoleds have fewer processing steps than color LCD displays.
http://www.ignisinnovation.com/technology/about-amoled-displays

]]> By: Pi got investment from 3M | USA MONEY! Earn the money - Get it free! http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10649 Pi got investment from 3M | USA MONEY! Earn the money - Get it free! Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:33:57 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10649 [...] 3M Invests in Pixel Qi (armdevices.net) [...] [...] 3M Invests in Pixel Qi (armdevices.net) [...]

]]> By: Monday Midday News: Unhappy Author Goes Viral - Dear Author http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10648 Monday Midday News: Unhappy Author Goes Viral - Dear Author Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:00:33 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10648 [...] found this to be a fairly siesmic announcement.  3M has announced that it is investing in Pixel Qi. Pixel Qi is the company that developed an amazing LCD screen that looks great outside but we [...] [...] found this to be a fairly siesmic announcement.  3M has announced that it is investing in Pixel Qi. Pixel Qi is the company that developed an amazing LCD screen that looks great outside but we [...]

]]> By: Charbax http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10647 Charbax Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:47:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10647 Sure, but LCD is the overwhelming safest bet for any of these technologies to be mass manufactured and to provide full video support. Mirasol probably can't be mass manufactured no matter how many billions Qualcomm puts into it. AMOLED is hard to manufacture and costs 10x more than LCD to manufacture at the moment, not pointing towards this changing. And AMOLED is not readable indoors nor outdoors. I dunno about Liquavista, Samsung may just be experimenting with lots of different stuff because they can afford it. Samsung can also just licence and start using Pixel Qi with their Super Clear LCD manufacturing process tomorrow, who knows, maybe they are already working with Pixel Qi on it.. Sure, but LCD is the overwhelming safest bet for any of these technologies to be mass manufactured and to provide full video support.

Mirasol probably can’t be mass manufactured no matter how many billions Qualcomm puts into it. AMOLED is hard to manufacture and costs 10x more than LCD to manufacture at the moment, not pointing towards this changing. And AMOLED is not readable indoors nor outdoors.

I dunno about Liquavista, Samsung may just be experimenting with lots of different stuff because they can afford it. Samsung can also just licence and start using Pixel Qi with their Super Clear LCD manufacturing process tomorrow, who knows, maybe they are already working with Pixel Qi on it..

]]> By: 3M’den LCD üreticisi Pixel Qi’ye yatırım - Teknoblog http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10645 3M’den LCD üreticisi Pixel Qi’ye yatırım - Teknoblog Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:46:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10645 [...] Yatırılan para satışları ve mühendislik kapasitesini arttırma gibi alanlarda kullanılacak.İlgili – ARMDevices Etiketler: 3m, lcd, lcd ekran, pixel qi, pixel qi lcd, yatırımgoogle_ad_client [...] [...] Yatırılan para satışları ve mühendislik kapasitesini arttırma gibi alanlarda kullanılacak.İlgili – ARMDevices Etiketler: 3m, lcd, lcd ekran, pixel qi, pixel qi lcd, yatırımgoogle_ad_client [...]

]]> By: Maventwo http://armdevices.net/2011/09/12/3m-invests-in-pixel-qi/comment-page-1/#comment-10646 Maventwo Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:39:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=19458#comment-10646 Pixel Qi displays still can´t be thinner than 1mm and unbreakable substrate as Amoled displays can be made on. Pixel Qi displays can´t be made on flexible substrate. Pixel Qi will be compeeted with Mirasoldisplay from Qualcomm, Mirasol displays is an IMOD tech made in a mems process which makes the Mirasol displays extreme power efficient and have full color gamut and also thin. Pixel Qi will have competition from Qualdomm Mirasol display,Pixtronix which is also made in a mems tech, Liquavista spin-off company from Philips in Eindhoven and in january 2011 sold to Samsung,Gamma Dynamics which is a similar electrowetting tech like Liquavista. E-ink will also came in full color gamut. And maybe Orthocone So, Pixel Qi will have a lot of competeers in thin, extremt power efficient and full color gamut displays forthcoming years. More about Mirasoldisplays: http://www.mirasoldisplays.com/ Liquavista: http://www.liquavista.com/default.aspx Pixtronix: http://www.pixtronix.com/technology/index.asp Gamma Dynamics: http://gammadynamics.net/technology/ Orthocone, a spin-off från Chalmers technical University in Gothenburg Sweden: http://orthocone.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=2 Pixel Qi displays still can´t be thinner than 1mm and unbreakable substrate as Amoled displays can be made on.
Pixel Qi displays can´t be made on flexible substrate.
Pixel Qi will be compeeted with Mirasoldisplay from Qualcomm, Mirasol displays is an IMOD tech made in a mems process
which makes the Mirasol displays extreme power efficient and have full color gamut and also thin.

Pixel Qi will have competition from Qualdomm Mirasol display,Pixtronix which is also made in a mems tech,
Liquavista spin-off company from Philips in Eindhoven and in january 2011 sold to Samsung,Gamma Dynamics which is a similar electrowetting tech
like Liquavista.
E-ink will also came in full color gamut.
And maybe Orthocone

So, Pixel Qi will have a lot of competeers in thin, extremt power efficient and full color gamut displays forthcoming years.

More about Mirasoldisplays:
http://www.mirasoldisplays.com/
Liquavista:
http://www.liquavista.com/default.aspx
Pixtronix:
http://www.pixtronix.com/technology/index.asp
Gamma Dynamics:
http://gammadynamics.net/technology/
Orthocone, a spin-off från Chalmers technical University in Gothenburg Sweden:
http://orthocone.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=2

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