Comments on: Intel spreads FUD on ARM based Windows 8 http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/ Blog on ARM Powered® devices Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: oxygen http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-11226 oxygen Wed, 30 Nov 2011 01:41:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-11226 Microsoft versus Intel: No matter who loses, we win dows. Microsoft versus Intel: No matter who loses, we win dows.

]]> By: joe knott http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9622 joe knott Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:02:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9622 I imagine Windows 8 ARM won't be a huge threat for Intel. Sure, it could take a small chunk out of their Atom sales, but Intel are hardly gonna go bankrupt because consumers have a choice between two low powered CPU's for their netbooks. Now if Microsoft were to also have Windows 8 available for other architectures (such as ARM and POWER), then it could be a different story. But since as ARM isn't really powerful enough for heavy gaming, Photoshopping and other common processor intensive tasks, most people are still gonna keep a desktop with a more powerful Intel chip in it. I imagine Windows 8 ARM won’t be a huge threat for Intel. Sure, it could take a small chunk out of their Atom sales, but Intel are hardly gonna go bankrupt because consumers have a choice between two low powered CPU’s for their netbooks. Now if Microsoft were to also have Windows 8 available for other architectures (such as ARM and POWER), then it could be a different story. But since as ARM isn’t really powerful enough for heavy gaming, Photoshopping and other common processor intensive tasks, most people are still gonna keep a desktop with a more powerful Intel chip in it.

]]> By: Charbax http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9512 Charbax Tue, 24 May 2011 12:11:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9512 Microsoft already has a huge database of .exe for monitoring and managing compatibility, it's called Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=24da89e9-b581-47b0-b45e-492dd6da2971&displaylang=en Yes I believe Intel's move on Moblin/Meego is what convinced Microsoft to put their 1000 top engineers to destroying Intel by making sure Windows 8 is fully ARM optimized, and that Windows 8 also brings desktop/laptop computing to the type of UI that can work on Tablets, Smartphones even (so Windows 8 on ARM will be quite close even fully compatible with Windows Phone 8). Microsoft already has a huge database of .exe for monitoring and managing compatibility, it’s called Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=24da89e9-b581-47b0-b45e-492dd6da2971&displaylang=en

Yes I believe Intel’s move on Moblin/Meego is what convinced Microsoft to put their 1000 top engineers to destroying Intel by making sure Windows 8 is fully ARM optimized, and that Windows 8 also brings desktop/laptop computing to the type of UI that can work on Tablets, Smartphones even (so Windows 8 on ARM will be quite close even fully compatible with Windows Phone 8).

]]> By: Eric Laffoon http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9510 Eric Laffoon Tue, 24 May 2011 07:57:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9510 I thought my Archos would be fast enough. It's like saying they will be here soon enough. That's not soon enough! ;) I thought my Archos would be fast enough. It’s like saying they will be here soon enough. That’s not soon enough! ;)

]]> By: Eric Laffoon http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9509 Eric Laffoon Tue, 24 May 2011 07:55:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9509 I'm with Richard Stallman on .NYET. I think it is a Linux Trojan coded by a guy who is anything but objective. We were told that it would be taking over the net and way to cool to resist... years ago. It is currently a marginal technology and next to other technologies out there really deserves to remain so... Unless we want to risk something like the GIF patent fiasco on a much grander scale. I'm simply doing all I can to remain immune and there or lots of options. I’m with Richard Stallman on .NYET. I think it is a Linux Trojan coded by a guy who is anything but objective. We were told that it would be taking over the net and way to cool to resist… years ago. It is currently a marginal technology and next to other technologies out there really deserves to remain so… Unless we want to risk something like the GIF patent fiasco on a much grander scale. I’m simply doing all I can to remain immune and there or lots of options.

]]> By: Eric Laffoon http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9508 Eric Laffoon Tue, 24 May 2011 07:48:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9508 Charbax I love you man, but I nearly cracked up to see the FUD reference. I'm pretty sure you know who I am and that I am a developer. As such I'm not sure it's as simple as you say and I would say some of what you propose seems unlikely. First of all Intel may have a point, but I can't say for sure. In theory if done right and everything is making clean Windows calls than as a matter of calling the API you could run any Windows program on ARM, assuming Microsoft took that tack and making one more huge assumption. That assumption would be whether there is any assembly code in the program. That means games and legacy apps optimized for performance on x86. Alternately if Microsoft takes the easier course it means every program needs a recompile. Knowing Microsoft and that they could not even make their latest mobile phone platform backwards compatible this has some probability. Remember, Microsoft is notorious for promising big things and delivering small internal changes and some cosmetics. That's not going to work with with a new platform. Last time Microsoft  tried to build for RISC was Intel's Itanium (Itanic). After years of getting nowhere it flopped and AMD launched X86_64 leaving Intel with it's pants down. It took years before Microsoft had an x86_64 release of Windows out of beta. Clearly Intel has a motivation to spread FUD on Windows on ARM. However remember Intel is also working on MeeGo as they are half the proposition having contributed their Mobiln OS which they spent years on. If I had to lean one direction or the other I tend to trust Intel a little more. Additionally your suggestion that Microsoft could just recompile old Windows programs has a real issue. Yes, they could be motivated to get product on ARM and they could help developers. No they are not going to have access to all the source code and time for lots of debugging on a large scale. Again Microsoft is notorious for breaking promises on releases. Time will tell. Intel may have had a motivation to discolor things, but so does Microsoft and the proof will be in the pudding. It's not so simple. Charbax I love you man, but I nearly cracked up to see the FUD reference. I’m pretty sure you know who I am and that I am a developer. As such I’m not sure it’s as simple as you say and I would say some of what you propose seems unlikely.

First of all Intel may have a point, but I can’t say for sure. In theory if done right and everything is making clean Windows calls than as a matter of calling the API you could run any Windows program on ARM, assuming Microsoft took that tack and making one more huge assumption. That assumption would be whether there is any assembly code in the program. That means games and legacy apps optimized for performance on x86. Alternately if Microsoft takes the easier course it means every program needs a recompile. Knowing Microsoft and that they could not even make their latest mobile phone platform backwards compatible this has some probability. Remember, Microsoft is notorious for promising big things and delivering small internal changes and some cosmetics. That’s not going to work with with a new platform. Last time Microsoft  tried to build for RISC was Intel’s Itanium (Itanic). After years of getting nowhere it flopped and AMD launched X86_64 leaving Intel with it’s pants down. It took years before Microsoft had an x86_64 release of Windows out of beta.

Clearly Intel has a motivation to spread FUD on Windows on ARM. However remember Intel is also working on MeeGo as they are half the proposition having contributed their Mobiln OS which they spent years on. If I had to lean one direction or the other I tend to trust Intel a little more. Additionally your suggestion that Microsoft could just recompile old Windows programs has a real issue. Yes, they could be motivated to get product on ARM and they could help developers. No they are not going to have access to all the source code and time for lots of debugging on a large scale.

Again Microsoft is notorious for breaking promises on releases. Time will tell. Intel may have had a motivation to discolor things, but so does Microsoft and the proof will be in the pudding. It’s not so simple.

]]> By: Zen Strive http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9507 Zen Strive Tue, 24 May 2011 05:19:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9507 Intel, Oh Intel, you and microsoft could go to hell for all I care Intel, Oh Intel, you and microsoft could go to hell for all I care

]]> By: Pug_ster http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9504 Pug_ster Mon, 23 May 2011 14:16:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9504 Agreed, to say there are 4 different versions of ARM is like to say there are 10+ different versions of x86, pentium II, pentium II, pentium IV, core2duo, core series, AMD's, VIA's, etc...  I'm sure that Microsoft will write up some drivers that will optimize for a certain CPU, but in terms of software, one software will be written for ARM.  Microsoft will be forcing the ARM cpu manufacturers to comply to their standards. Agreed, to say there are 4 different versions of ARM is like to say there are 10+ different versions of x86, pentium II, pentium II, pentium IV, core2duo, core series, AMD’s, VIA’s, etc…  I’m sure that Microsoft will write up some drivers that will optimize for a certain CPU, but in terms of software, one software will be written for ARM.  Microsoft will be forcing the ARM cpu manufacturers to comply to their standards.

]]> By: Les http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9503 Les Mon, 23 May 2011 08:10:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9503  Most of the software on my x86 PC is either from MS (Office) or a Windows version of a Linux program which are available in Ubuntu (and therefore already ported to ARM).  I only have two other programs from commercial developers, and I can get most of their functionality from Linux derived programs too. So in my view, since Ubuntu and other flavours of Linux are already available on ARM, the 'legacy app' argument is irrelevant. The idea that there will be 4 different versions of Windows for ARM is also quite silly.  There are as many 'versions' of windows as there are PC models because the Windows installation program 'builds' each installation according to the hardware it finds.  The next generation of Intel Atom will be an SOC and it will be a different SOC than the AMD Bobcat. The App store you propose has two big advantages, in my opinion.  First, you can weed out all the rubbish legacy apps.  Second, you have much greater immunity to viruses if you use only the software in the app store because only secure programs will get in there.  Most of the software on my x86 PC is either from MS (Office) or a Windows version of a Linux program which are available in Ubuntu (and therefore already ported to ARM).  I only have two other programs from commercial developers, and I can get most of their functionality from Linux derived programs too. So in my view, since Ubuntu and other flavours of Linux are already available on ARM, the ‘legacy app’ argument is irrelevant.

The idea that there will be 4 different versions of Windows for ARM is also quite silly.  There are as many ‘versions’ of windows as there are PC models because the Windows installation program ‘builds’ each installation according to the hardware it finds.  The next generation of Intel Atom will be an SOC and it will be a different SOC than the AMD Bobcat.

The App store you propose has two big advantages, in my opinion.  First, you can weed out all the rubbish legacy apps.  Second, you have much greater immunity to viruses if you use only the software in the app store because only secure programs will get in there.

]]> By: Pug_ster http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9501 Pug_ster Mon, 23 May 2011 03:25:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9501 In terms of Thin Clients, playing video and especially games are the paths that would hit a roadblock, including this.  First of all, the point of having a thin client is the need of a low bandwidth, running videos and games remotely would suck the bandwidth pipe.  Second, almost all business virtual environments have no graphics capability.  Third, this VDI runs Microsoft's HyperV, not Vmware and most companies still run vmware.  I don't think many companies want their users to play video or video games for that matter, so I don't think putting a beefy graphics card in a server would sell very well.  Besides, I think that these ARM processors would have DSP's that would allow processing of video and games in the local level in the future. On the plus side, when windows 8 ARM come out, we would see alot of cheap Windows 8 powered media players and Wyse terminals. In terms of Thin Clients, playing video and especially games are the paths that would hit a roadblock, including this.  First of all, the point of having a thin client is the need of a low bandwidth, running videos and games remotely would suck the bandwidth pipe.  Second, almost all business virtual environments have no graphics capability.  Third, this VDI runs Microsoft’s HyperV, not Vmware and most companies still run vmware.  I don’t think many companies want their users to play video or video games for that matter, so I don’t think putting a beefy graphics card in a server would sell very well.  Besides, I think that these ARM processors would have DSP’s that would allow processing of video and games in the local level in the future.

On the plus side, when windows 8 ARM come out, we would see alot of cheap Windows 8 powered media players and Wyse terminals.

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]]> By: Code Morphing http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9499 Code Morphing Sun, 22 May 2011 13:04:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9499  Code morphing and Transitive Technologies (IBM). http://tietsikka.blogspot.com/2011/05/intel-pelkaa-armia.html  Code morphing and Transitive Technologies (IBM).
http://tietsikka.blogspot.com/2011/05/intel-pelkaa-armia.html

]]> By: समीर शाह http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9498 समीर शाह Sun, 22 May 2011 05:41:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9498 An advantage Microsoft has over Apple is that Microsoft has not mixed 32 bits and 64 bits. Only 32 bit Windows will go ARM. An advantage Microsoft has over Apple is that Microsoft has not mixed 32 bits and 64 bits. Only 32 bit Windows will go ARM.

]]> By: समीर शाह http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9497 समीर शाह Sun, 22 May 2011 05:32:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9497 The biggest advanage ARM has over x86 is that it is almost always a part of an SoC and because of that there is performance increase in graphics and video encode/decode among other things.   I think you are talking of "Synaptics Package Manager" on Ununtu rather than "Ubuntu Sioftware Center". Ubuntu Software Center has only 1600 apps wheareas Synaptics Package Manager has over 30,000.   My first insight is that Microsoft may want use any one or all or a combination of these approaches to run x86 applications. There are two Gujarati proverbs which are very apt:   જે પાણીએ મગ ચડે તેમ ચડાવવાના   and   ટપ ટપથી કામ નથી મમ્મમથી છે   Another insight, .Net is going to be very important including other platforms so mono and other platform initiatives need to go on. The biggest advanage ARM has over x86 is that it is almost always a part of an SoC and because of that there is performance increase in graphics and video encode/decode among other things.
 
I think you are talking of “Synaptics Package Manager” on Ununtu rather than “Ubuntu Sioftware Center”. Ubuntu Software Center has only 1600 apps wheareas Synaptics Package Manager has over 30,000.
 
My first insight is that Microsoft may want use any one or all or a combination of these approaches to run x86 applications. There are two Gujarati proverbs which are very apt:
 
જે પાણીએ મગ ચડે તેમ ચડાવવાના
 
and
 
ટપ ટપથી કામ નથી મમ્મમથી છે
 
Another insight, .Net is going to be very important including other platforms so mono and other platform initiatives need to go on.

]]> By: damaged justice http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9495 damaged justice Sat, 21 May 2011 22:40:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9495  Microsoft versus Intel: No matter who loses, we win.  Microsoft versus Intel: No matter who loses, we win.

]]> By: Charbax http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9494 Charbax Sat, 21 May 2011 21:45:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9494 What I think has been told in some of my videos is yes ARM Cortex-A15 starts sampling perhaps end of this year or early next year, but until the processors are ready for mass production and to be included in actual products there always needs to be a bunch more months. On the other hand, companies like Nvidia and probably TI, Qualcomm and others are also investing huge amounts of money in R&D to speed up their work to the maximum. What I think has been told in some of my videos is yes ARM Cortex-A15 starts sampling perhaps end of this year or early next year, but until the processors are ready for mass production and to be included in actual products there always needs to be a bunch more months.

On the other hand, companies like Nvidia and probably TI, Qualcomm and others are also investing huge amounts of money in R&D to speed up their work to the maximum.

]]> By: Marc http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9493 Marc Sat, 21 May 2011 20:31:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9493  Hi. I thought that OMAP 5 (Dual Core A15 + Dual Core Cortex M4) will be in production at the end of this very same year, and in devices in 2012. This processor can match Windows 8 schedule.  Hi. I thought that OMAP 5 (Dual Core A15 + Dual Core Cortex M4) will be in production at the end of this very same year, and in devices in 2012.

This processor can match Windows 8 schedule.

]]> By: Anonymous http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9491 Anonymous Sat, 21 May 2011 15:14:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9491 Didn't they announce no effort at all for x86 compatibillity just a few days ago? It's a HUGE job (to get good performance) anyway. I guess by just translating operating system calls you could make 80% of the apps fast enough though. Didn’t they announce no effort at all for x86 compatibillity just a few days ago? It’s a HUGE job (to get good performance) anyway. I guess by just translating operating system calls you could make 80% of the apps fast enough though.

]]> By: Anonymous http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9490 Anonymous Sat, 21 May 2011 15:10:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9490 You're right that .NET could become their "one tool to bind them all", but at present it's absolutely not. I've seen a couple of apps adding .NET as a dependency recently but pure apps? No way! Try to name 5 well known desktop apps written entirely in .NET. Actually I can't even think of one (even visual studio 2010 has huge parts written in c++). You’re right that .NET could become their “one tool to bind them all”, but at present it’s absolutely not. I’ve seen a couple of apps adding .NET as a dependency recently but pure apps? No way! Try to name 5 well known desktop apps written entirely in .NET. Actually I can’t even think of one (even visual studio 2010 has huge parts written in c++).

]]> By: Charbax http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9489 Charbax Sat, 21 May 2011 13:56:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9489 Cortex-A15 prototypes will be shown early next year for commercial release by the end of next year, though there are also very fast Dual-core 1.6Ghz and Quad-core Cortex-A9 being released sooner. I think those are fast enough. Cortex-A15 prototypes will be shown early next year for commercial release by the end of next year, though there are also very fast Dual-core 1.6Ghz and Quad-core Cortex-A9 being released sooner. I think those are fast enough.

]]> By: Jomunoz http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9487 Jomunoz Sat, 21 May 2011 13:42:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9487 x86 emulation would be a great feature,  it would be interesting to know how Microsoft is handling that issue. Anyway, Microsoft should look to match the release of Windows 8 for ARM to match the release of Cortex-A15 devices, it they do it earlier Windows 8 running on Cortex-A9 or A8 would be considered slow and disappointing. x86 emulation would be a great feature,  it would be interesting to know how Microsoft is handling that issue.
Anyway, Microsoft should look to match the release of Windows 8 for ARM to match the release of Cortex-A15 devices, it they do it earlier Windows 8 running on Cortex-A9 or A8 would be considered slow and disappointing.

]]> By: Jomunoz http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9488 Jomunoz Sat, 21 May 2011 13:42:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9488 x86 emulation would be a great feature,  it would be interesting to know how Microsoft is handling that issue. Anyway, Microsoft should look to match the release of Windows 8 for ARM to match the release of Cortex-A15 devices, it they do it earlier Windows 8 running on Cortex-A9 or A8 would be considered slow and disappointing. x86 emulation would be a great feature,  it would be interesting to know how Microsoft is handling that issue.
Anyway, Microsoft should look to match the release of Windows 8 for ARM to match the release of Cortex-A15 devices, it they do it earlier Windows 8 running on Cortex-A9 or A8 would be considered slow and disappointing.

]]> By: Ecco come Microsoft potrebbe risolvere la questione della… « highlightsaber http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9486 Ecco come Microsoft potrebbe risolvere la questione della… « highlightsaber Sat, 21 May 2011 12:02:32 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9486 [...] http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/   LikeBe the first to like this post. [...] [...] http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/   LikeBe the first to like this post. [...]

]]> By: Stephan Wienczny http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9485 Stephan Wienczny Sat, 21 May 2011 11:43:00 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9485 You completely missed .NET. Every CIL-Binary that does not use native code won't need to be recompiled, it will just run fine on any architecure. Many apps developed in the last years use .NET already. Ubuntu's support for ARM can't be compared to the one Windows will have. Ubuntu has the complete source code of all apps and this source is mostly developed with compatibility in mind.  You completely missed .NET. Every CIL-Binary that does not use native code won’t need to be recompiled, it will just run fine on any architecure. Many apps developed in the last years use .NET already.
Ubuntu’s support for ARM can’t be compared to the one Windows will have. Ubuntu has the complete source code of all apps and this source is mostly developed with compatibility in mind. 

]]> By: Ecco come Microsoft potrebbe risolvere la questione della compatibilità per la(e) versione(i) ARM di Windows 8 « highlightsaber http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9484 Ecco come Microsoft potrebbe risolvere la questione della compatibilità per la(e) versione(i) ARM di Windows 8 « highlightsaber Sat, 21 May 2011 10:57:45 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9484 [...] http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/   LikeBe the first to like this post. [...] [...] http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/   LikeBe the first to like this post. [...]

]]> By: Ecco come Microsoft potrebbe risolvere la questione della… « highlightsaber http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/comment-page-1/#comment-9483 Ecco come Microsoft potrebbe risolvere la questione della… « highlightsaber Sat, 21 May 2011 10:53:08 +0000 http://armdevices.net/?p=9051#comment-9483 [...] http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/   LikeBe the first to like this post. [...] [...] http://armdevices.net/2011/05/21/intel-spreads-fud-on-arm-based-windows-8/   LikeBe the first to like this post. [...]

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